Why Not Us?! Episode #13

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I have one possible PCPI, pod continuous process improvement.

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So do you think it's a good idea I could just do the transitions through the first two segments, and then you you transition into lightning, right? So there's no, like, you taking notes as to where you're at or whatever- because that's hard, Sure so this, I just think that could make it easier.

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Yeah.

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That, that's great.

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I'm just gonna place a note.

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Where does the lightning round start? See, this was the spirit of the CPI.

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I just don't want you having to like, you know, thumb through stuff, which is why I, brought it up to make it- What do you mean? I love thumbing through notes when we're live.

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It's my specialty.

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Um.

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All right, why don't you just do it? So basically, fine.

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So that's that.

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That's that.

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Welcome to Why Not Us? The podcast with fewer turnovers than Drake May, and we've recorded 12 episodes.

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I'm your co-host Scott Greenhut, and on the other side of the mic, my good friend Peter Olczyk.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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Um, Scott, let me first just wish you a happy belated International Podcast Day.

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Did you know that it was just a few days ago, September 30? It's a thing.

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I did see the thing.

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Oh, great.

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And by the way, right back at you.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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So with that, let's get into the lineup.

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In today's episode, we'll talk MLB playoffs, and also look back into our respective fandoms for a fun thought exercise.

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But we begin with football, and specifically with Scott's New York Giants.

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I'll just say that it feels like it's been a little bit kind of like As the Giants Turn over the last couple of weeks.

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Call it an emotional rollercoaster, but how would you call it? And let's just start with that Jackson Dart news that happened, and going from there.

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So Jackson Dart going down, one of the most frustrating developments um, also one of the most expected developments that, that you might think of as a Giants fan.

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I mean, you could call him snake bit, you could call it the style of play.

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I don't really know.

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I just don't get good spidey senses about- his health in, in a long-term fashion.

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Right.

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It's just something...

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I mean, he didn't even do anything on the play in particular, so you can't even say it was that.

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But it's just sometimes guys just ha- have a propensity to, to being injured, and then once injured, you sometimes get even more injured.

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So that was a tough blow.

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And then, followed closely by our leader on defense, Brian Burns- Right tearing, uh, his ACL against Tennessee, uh, and out for the season.

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And so,, defense has been, one of the areas of strength for the team, and now we've lost arguably our best player there.

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You do have some, some backup at that position, though.

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It's a bit of a position of strength, right? We do have a position of strength, and so far, even with this injury, the defense is carrying the team.

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I went to the Tennessee game last week.

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Three and outs on Tennessee's first five drives.

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The longest such streak to open a game since at least 1991.

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No Titans first down until a minute and 18 before halftime still no touchdowns from the D men, so it took a bunch of field goals and a game-sealing end zone interception with 17 seconds left, to, to win the game.

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Holland, the guy who made that INT- Oh, right named NFC Defensive Player of the Month with three interceptions and two forced fumbles in September.

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Wow.

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So we have him, and we have, newly drafted Avril Reese, 12 tackles against the Titans, tied- Love it uh, for the most by a Giants rookie since 1994.

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So- Whoa and, oh, last but not least, the punter's contributing.

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Jordan Stout, the first Giant with 70-yard punts in back-to-back games, so- Stout's a good last name for a punter.

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And so this is the team where d- our field goal kicker and punter are both in the MVP conversation and so now we're, we're two and one.

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But, let me take a breath here, and, you can give me a little Jets stuff, and then, I'll pop back in- Okay with our QB situation.

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All right, awesome.

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All right, so the Jets, week two and week three.

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For me, two things can be true.

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I'm extremely pleased with the 100% watchable, often thrilling moments of the last two weeks while also frustrated with both games ending up as losses.

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Green Bay, three and a half really good quarters.

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We were a couple of plays from icing it in regulation.

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Detroit, strong second-half comeback, but we struggled against a high-powered offense.

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But let me mention a few guys that have just been, you know, wowing, and we've talked about these players, I think, on the last pod.

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Geno Smith, I had expected solid quarterback play going into this season.

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We've talked about that.

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He's been way more than that.

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The pocket presence has been amazing.

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Moving the long as necessary, the accuracy both on checkdowns as well as, you know, over the corner, up the middle, the whole thing, and he's been a leader.

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I mean, even just this week, I think it was on Wednesday on Media Day, he basically answered five questions with, "We need to finish."

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I love that.

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Garrett Wilson, he is starting to show the league his superpower of dexterity and concentration to maneuver his hands and contort his body however necessary to make extremely difficult catches.

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So please stay healthy because this player- is really on the fast track to being one of the top five or so at this position, and I just wanna see it.

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Kenyan Sadiq, you could say he's a tight end.

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What he is, is a weapon.

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That was a wow week three.

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That was a breakout week three.

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He is a matchup nightmare.

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Linebackers, defensive backs, safeties, please, please stay healthy.

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There is a lot of tape on Kenyan Sadiq now after last week, but we haven't had a player like this in, let me think, forever.

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So that has, that has been awesome.

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Uh, let me quickly get into this coming matchup.

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Chicago, week four, they just announced I think a few hours ago, we're recording this on a Saturday, that it looks like Tyson Bagent is actually gonna get the call- Yeah over Casey Keenum, who played great on Monday night at Green Bay.

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I'm curious about one player on defense, the return of safety Minkah Fitzpatrick.

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He played all of six plays, uh, in week one when he hurt his groin.

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I'm calling it now, interception update.

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This is the week.

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It's been 20 games and 620 straight pass attempts without a pick.

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That ends now.

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It has officially been manifested.

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There you go, well, the G-Men, um, home dogs against the Arizona Cardinals, which is some special place to be.

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I'm not sure what to make of it except that obviously our offense is in tatters.

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We have, we have Jameis who, who, has proven to be very capable in the past.

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He-- I watched him in the preseason.

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He looked excellent with strong arm strength.

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I don't know where that's been the last game and a half.

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So let's- Weather a big problem last week.

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Oh, I would know.

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Um, soaked to the bone.

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It was, uh, great fun being exposed to the elements there.

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Uh, but yeah, so weather, weather was a big deal.

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You're right, both QBs, um, had some, had some trouble slinging it.

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And then, you know, let's talk about the big pickup, uh, this past week.

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J.J.

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McCarthy, this is a sliding doors moment, okay? Mm.

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He was drafted number 10 by the Minnesota Vikings in 2024.

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Knee injury in the preseason ended his season.

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He was gonna start.

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He wasn't gonna be a bench guy.

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He was gonna start So that opened the door for one Sam Darnold.

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He revives his career, he takes the Vikings 14 and three- Of course he does to the playoffs, and then he forces the Vikings into a tough decision in the, in the off season.

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What do you wanna do, guys? What's up? Minnesota's like, "We drafted J.J.

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McCarthy.

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He's our guy."

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So Darnold ends up going to Seattle, he wins, um, oh, the Super Bowl.

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That's right.

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J.J.

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struggles to no end.

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He loses his job to Kyler Murray, then he falls behind Carson Wentz on the, depth chart, and now he is a New York Giant who, may or may not see time, you know, depending on how Jameis does.

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Obviously he's got Harbaugh as a coach.

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Maybe that's, it's the brother, but maybe there's something something there.

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But boy, sliding doors with with the Darnold story I mean, yeah.

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No, that's good.

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I, it just feels like my perspective, you know, Jet fan looking from the outside in, you got the right coach in John Harbaugh to try to navigate through all of that stuff in the way that makes most sense, and hopefully to keep this season meaningful.

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It was ridiculous how giddy the fan base was walking out of that stadium w- after not scoring a touchdown and all being soaked to the bone.

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High fives everywhere.,

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And a very winnable game this weekend, despite being underdogs.

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I mean, come on, guys.

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Yeah, the schedule- Let's do this thing the schedule could not have worked out better given what's going on there.

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Let's do this thing.

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All right, so let's, let's zoom out a little bit on the NFL side of things.

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I, I'll start.

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San Francisco 49ers.

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The brand of the 49ers is really impressive.

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Another year of getting absolutely decimated by injuries, and yet they found their way to three and up Head coach Kyle Shanahan, I would love to be a fly on the wall just day-to-day in terms of how he kind of runs that team and through his entire coaching staff.

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Of course, the healthy players certainly are meaningful here.

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Brock Purdy, a quarterback, is playing the best football of his life.

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Christian McCaffrey is healthy and doing his thing.

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Same thing for George Kittle.

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So that is a wonderful s- base to work off of, but still the amount of injuries is comical, and they just keep on powering through.

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I will be curious, week four, how the offense kind of game plans or performs against the Denver Broncos.

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That is a top defense.

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Yeah, perennial champs, those gu- uh, not champs, but, like, uh, run like a professional organization, right, the 49ers.

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I mean, just, just the, just, uh, kind of like the Braves in baseball, but we'll get there.

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I'm looking at the team in your division, the Patriots- Oh, boy going from Super Bowl to near the bottom of the rankings.

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I mean, I actually had to check this stat 'cause it came up in my research.

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Uh, ranked 31st in the power rankings at nfl.com.

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What? Drake May, seven turnovers in three games.

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That's, unbelievable.

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Mike Vrabel, "My concern level is very high for this football team."

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Drake May, "I gotta look myself in the mirror."

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A.J.

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Brown, he's been out since week one with a high ankle sprain, and this week at Buffalo, things not gonna get easier.

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Last year they made it to the Super Bowl.

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What is going on? Well, one thing that happened last year is that they played teams with a 391- That's right winning percentage, so tied for the third easiest schedule in the last 50 years.

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And then their playoff path, they had Justin Herbert to play against, in, in the wild card round.

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They had C.J.

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Stroud as QB to play against in divisional round.

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In the championship, Jarrett Stidham, Denver's backup- Yeah they had to go through him.

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And then obviously they got their clocks cleaned in the Super Bowl.

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This year, a much tougher schedule, and so, you know, question is, is, was the schedule responsible? People watching tape on Drake May, or what is going on in New England? Because this is a little similar to the 49ers.

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They haven't quite had the longevity of the Niners, just for decade in and decade out, but we're talking about a team that's been quite excellent for some time, and this has been strange to watch.

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I think there have been many more questions rather than answers around that franchise from what we've heard about, you know, starting with the health o- of the quarterback there.

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Had some shoulder issues last year.

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Is that a thing right now or not? Yeah.

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He's a tough guy.

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He's gonna, you know, play through it.

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It's gonna get worse before it gets better.

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I think you talked about Buffalo being the next game.

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That doesn't feel like a great matchup with, you know, the team that I think is gonna end up in the Super Bowl this year.

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So yeah, I think, um- It's, it's gonna be tough sledding, I think, for the Pats for, for a bit.

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All right.

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So let's, let's transition into a little bit of baseball.

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We got the playoffs going on here.

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Why don't you kick it off with the National League? What are you looking at? Yeah.

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So first of all, I d- I actually hadn't planned this part, but I was flipping around, uh, Sirius XM the other day- Yeah and it turns out that, they broadcast Philadelphia Sports Radio on- Oh, boy it's incredible.

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Oh my God, listening before game, three of the wildcard round, these guys are absolute maniacs, and then after they lost, that's of course a must listen.

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That's the perfect station for a Mets fan, especially this year.

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There's just...

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There's nothing that makes me giddier than Philadelphia Sports Radio.

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It is on the next level squared.

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Um, so that's just a brief note, just because I stumbled upon that.

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Yeah.

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I wanted to hone in on the Milwaukee Brewers- Mm-hmm who I have now been calling the new Moneyball A's.

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103 wins, franchise record.

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The money, payroll, 20th out of 30 teams, so roughly 140 million.

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The Dodgers spent about f- 400 million.

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They've drawn a very tough match up in the division series against the Padres, who are probably the hottest team in baseball.

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And the Brewers, you know, also, um, a good year last year, only, only to come up short in, in the playoffs.

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But just going back to the Moneyball thing, um, the 103 wins- Yeah exact same as the 2002 A's.

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Nice.

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So that was kind of like, whoa.

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And same win total, same payroll gap, same question, can they win in October? We shall find out.

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They have, you know, the Miz, uh, ready to rock and roll, from a pitching standpoint, and they, they've had a cast of who know who, uh, from m- from hitting.

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Bryce Turang, team MVP, seven war.

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Mm-hmm.

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Who knew he could hit? I didn't.

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Uh, and you know, and Jake Bowers and, and the rest.

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I, I love teams like this that, that come together, through the system, being really smart with the payroll.

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Uh, I'll certainly be rooting for him.

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Yeah, so that's my take on, on the Brewers.

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Yeah.

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I'm gonna come back to Milwaukee at the end.

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Okay.

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Let me, uh...

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I'll do a little AL.

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Yeah.

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So a little bit more anti-climatic in terms of the playoffs so far in the American League side.

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Yeah.

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The White Sox we've been rooting for.

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Pretty easy over Houston in two games.

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There was a big blast from sophomore second baseman Chase Mydrow.

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That kinda was the, the final dagger for the Astros.

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And then of course the Yankees over the sleepy Red Sox, which had been really- Yeah the case since the beginning of September.

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Um, you know, that offense.

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Totally one-sided series.

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Cam Schlittler and Ben Rice were electric in game one.

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Yeah.

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Max Freed was in total control in game two, reading swings, keeping the Sox off balance.

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The Yankees even showed some situational hitting and athleticism, a few stolen bases.

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That's gonna matter as we come up to the next series.

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Right.

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So here we go.

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We got the Yankees and the Rays in a best of five.

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Of course, I think a lot of people would like to see this really as the championship series, but that's another topic.

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This is the first post-season match-up outside of the 2020 COVID year between these two teams.

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That one in front of no fans in Petco Park in San Diego.

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Rays won it in five.

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For me, this one feels like a coin flip, especially, with Aaron Judge, who is now out and, and has been out, and I think he would've been extremely compromised if they had played him.

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Have they ruled him out for the whole series? He's ru- Yeah, the rosters went up this morning, so he's out.

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Okay.

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So I, I'm looking at a Trop Dome field advantage here, um, in a five-game series.

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I think it might be tougher for the Yankees with their power, in the, in Tampa.

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And I'm also wondering, you know, what are we gonna see out of Junior Caminero? This is probably the, uh, the runner-up to ALMVP.

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As I said, I think it's a coin flip series.

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I think it's going five.

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I'm looking forward to it.

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The Yankees didn't, not miss Judge in the last series.

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Let's see if they miss him in this one Yeah.

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Um, absolutely.

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I was listening to, uh, I was flipping around all the sports radios on, on Sirius, and there was a guy who called in and said, "Maybe the Yankees are better off without Judge."

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I'm like, uh, "Okay."

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Uh, that, that call didn't go well nor, nor should it have.

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But, um, yeah, we will see how, uh, how deep they can go without their s- without their superstar.

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So a couple other, couple other things for the playoffs I just wanted to touch on.

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The White Sox and Cleveland, totally looking forward to the home crowd in Chicago, which they didn't get in the last round 'cause that was in Houston, so that's gonna be a moment.

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Right, and, uh, they're crosstown rivals.

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Bye-bye.

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Yeah, those teams know each other kind of really well- Yeah um, after this season.

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Yeah.

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Atlanta and LA.

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So we're gonna get a Shohei that's not quite 100%.

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Um- Right.

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No pitching.

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No pitching for sure.

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Left knee and the right bicep.

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He spoke through his translator, this was on Friday, uh, that he's just gonna have to manage.

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So I'm hoping that we get something- It's so blunt in Japanese.

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In hockey, he, there would be no, "I'll just have to manage."

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It would be, "I'm feeling great.

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Can't wait to get out there."

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Right.

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So I'd like to think we're gonna get something that at least shows off, the true Shohei at the plate, but it's har- hard to say.

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And here's my wish casting for the World Series, which I touched on earlier.

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I would love to see Milwaukee and Tampa Bay match up.

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These are really mirror images of each other.

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Average, first and second in baseball.

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Top five in stolen bases.

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Bottom 10 in home runs.

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Milwaukee is second from the last in home runs.

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Hmm.

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And strong pitching staffs on both sides.

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So this is really, um, for baseball purists, you know, like you and I, um, both have been throughout our lives.

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This would be something that would be wonderful to see small ball, Valuing moving runners along, the whole thing.

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Yeah.

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But let's- Yeah let, let's see what happens.

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I don't know- Getting a guy home from third with less than two outs, that thing.

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All right.

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So that's- That's my, that, that's my wish casting for the, for the World Series.

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You know who I wish is not in the World Series? The Atlanta Braves struggling to sell out their wildcard games.

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Unbelievable.

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The, Philadelphia, aforementioned sports radio crew having a field day, um, and apparently becoming enemies of Braves Twitter by mocking their, uh, lack of attendance even though they're pricing tickets at 30 bucks.

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Yeah, you know, those afternoon starts can be really tricky as well, and I think there was a little bit of that, but yeah, no, I- Yeah, they've always been...

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It was, what a spoiled, uh, you know, they don't even know how good they've had it.

295
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Yeah, what was it, 14 straight division titles or something like that- Unbelievable through our lifetime? Yeah.

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Uh, all right, so let's see what happens, and let's transition into a little bit of lightning.

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I'm gonna start, and I wanted to talk about Justin Verlander's 2026 season.

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He made one start in March, then went on the IL with a hamstring injury, and then he dealt with hip inflammation during his rehab.

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Fast-forward to September 21st, he's back on the mound for one simulated session with no swings from a hitter.

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Five days later, he's in front of a packed Comerica crowd in Detroit.

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He's introduced by diehard Tigers fan J.K.

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Simmons, then trots to the mound and goes on to throw five and a third solid innings before his seven-year-old daughter, Genevieve- Yeah gets called to rush to the mound for an impromptu embrace.

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So here's what he said afterwards: "I was totally blindsided and sobbing and had to tell her to make sure she understood I was happy."

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"Walking off the field with my family, I can't think of a better ending."

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So wow, what a way to end a Hall of Fame career for one of the seemingly last couple of true workhorse starting pitchers in the game.

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Yeah, it was really, really cute.

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Um, I loved the way she ran out to the mound, too.

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It was, it was, it was amazing.

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Like, she, uh, she did a great job.

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And so, uh, congrats to the, to the Verlanders, I suppose, as they say.

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Yeah.

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Uh, all right, so for the second one, hockey somehow started in September, which caught me a little bit off guard.

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Yeah.

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But, but why don't you take us through what- You, you know why it caught you off guard? Yeah.

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Is because they shortened the preseason and added four more freaking games onto the regular season.

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Unbelievable.

317
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So now they're up to 84, as if the regular season wasn't long enough.

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Yeah I'm gonna just say let's just call these first four games kind of the extra and bonus games.

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Okay.

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Well, in game three of these bonus games, my New York Rangers, uh, had something pretty historic happen, and that was Igor Shesterkin netted a goal.

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It was awesome.

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My son and I were FaceTiming each other at the same time, so they criss-crossed.

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It was...

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Listen, uh, for early October hockey, there's probably very little that would get each other to, uh, to be this excited, but it was, it was phenomenal.

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Igor says he's gonna score again.

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He poked a little, uh, fun at the Islanders' goalie, uh, who last year kinda got a freebie just because- I remember he was the last one to have touched the puck, and then the, the team scored on their own goal.

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But, like, technically, he got a, he got a goal.

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In any case, this is the first Ranger goalie in, in franchise history to score a goal after, you know, but Igor has just got a phenomenal stick.

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And so Henry, my son, and I were, have been tracking this for, for some time, uh, and, and thinking it could happen.

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And, and in fact, it did, so that was great to see.

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And just in general, they've brought in a whole bunch of new guys, um, younger, faster, and off to a looking really good two in one start.

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So maybe these extra games aren't so bad after all.

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I'm happy to hear you excited and enthusiastic about your hockey team.

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It's been a, it's been a tough sledding for a bit.

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Yeah.

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We'll see.

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We'll see but so far, I like some of these new guys that I wasn't as familiar with.

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Yeah.

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And they're, they're, they're showing up.

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And, uh, yeah, let's, let's, let's make this a, uh, a fun year.

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All right.

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All right, so one more lightning, as I said at the top.

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A little bit of a thought exercise.

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This was the homework.

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Come up with a number that is the cumulative all-around top or favorite uniform/jersey, sort of across our respective fandoms.

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So it's not the player, it's the number that sort of rises to the top as you look back.

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Could go a lot of ways with this one.

348
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Why don't you kick it off? What's the number? Oh my God.

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This was fun.

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And I had to call you as, uh, obviously you know, but just for the listeners, just to clarify- Yeah the rules of engagement here.

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But then it became clear and then it, it became, it became super fun.

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I mean, I'm gonna cheat.

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I immediately, of course, went to 11.

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I happened to give the Messier-Brunson speech after the Knicks won the championship.

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So I mean, boom, bam, right there.

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I won't repeat it, but you know, Mark Messier is my, my favorite hockey player of all time.

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Jalen Brunson did the most incredible Knick achievement of my lifetime.

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And oh, uh, Phil Simms, uh, of the New York Giants, 22 of 25, for their first Super Bowl.

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Let me just skid right into my actual pick because that kind of could have been it, but instead I'm gonna go with number 30.

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Ah.

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Two kings, one number.

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Henrik Lundqvist, my favorite Rangers goalie of all time, affectionately known as The King.

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And we have, in the past, talked about our favorite New York Knick, whose jersey should be up in the rafters- Yeah literally named King.

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Um, boom and bam, right there.

365
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Those two guys alone, make 30 pretty special.

366
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Bonus content, Michael Conforto.

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Yeah.

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Um, 2017 All-Star, two homers in Game four of the 2015 World Series, the first Mets rookie to do that.

369
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Bonus, bonus coverage, Nolan Ryan briefly wore the number as a New York Met.

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Okay, I cheated.

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What do you got? All right.

372
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This was a tough one for me, but I'm, I was happy to go through it.

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Here's where I landed, and I'm gonna mention a couple numbers afterwards.

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Num- Fair, fair enough.

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Number five.

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So let's go a little bit chronologically here.

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Denis Potvin, on my Islander fandom through that whole dynasty stretch.

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I couldn't believe, by the way, that he actually started in '73 and went all the way through '88.

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But just, you know, Hall of Famer, one of the top two-way players.

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Yeah.

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And, and if I may.

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Yeah.

383
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Uh, sorry to interrupt, but as a New York Ranger fan, public service announcement, we know that he sucks Let's move it along.

384
00:26:32,872 --> 00:26:40,410
Okay? But the statute of limitations is four decades, can we not do that whistle every single home game? Okay, please continue.

385
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Understood.

386
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Baseball.

387
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So here's a player I haven't got a chance to talk about yet.

388
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Steve Henderson was my guy- Oh growing up.

389
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Um, very big sore spot, 1977.

390
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Should've been Rookie of the Year in my book.

391
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He was second, the voting was very close.

392
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That may be something for another pod.

393
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To Andre Dawson, who we used to call Andre Awesome, so no disrespect to Andre Dawson at all.

394
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So that's the first number five.

395
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And then of course, you get to D Wright.

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You know, David Wright, his number is now up in Citi Field, 12 years, so just wonderful there Emmanuel Quickly for the New York Knicks.

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This became a player that we loved.

398
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Complete fan favorite.

399
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Yeah.

400
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Um- Emmanuel Frazier, IQ.

401
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Like, he's just IQ.

402
00:27:28,304 --> 00:27:30,111
Yeah, so loved that player.

403
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And I talked about Garrett Wilson before.

404
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Number five, I'm hoping that this is a Jet that becomes one of my all-time favorite wide receivers on my shortlist of very respected players.

405
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Um, and here's a bonus on number five.

406
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My son, for two years of high school baseball, wore number five in honor of D.

407
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Wright.

408
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Hmm.

409
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So that's, that's a bit on number five.

410
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I did mention a couple other numbers.

411
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Honorable mention, 22.

412
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Mike Bossy, as you know, was completely, uh, my number one, uh, guy for the Islanders f- forever.

413
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How about on the Mets side of things? Ray Knight and Al Leiter, I love that 22 combination.

414
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For the Jets fans out there, free safety Eric McMillan just a few years, really good player.

415
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So that's 22.

416
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And here's a TBD that maybe rises over time.

417
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Number 20, Michael Ray Richardson, one of my first absolute fa- uh, players as a New York Knick.

418
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Pete Alonso, of course, we've been talking about.

419
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You know, wonderful career as a Met.

420
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And let's see what happens with Breece Hall's Jets career.

421
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Let's see if he can become a running back over a number of years that becomes, you know, one of our greats, so.

422
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And if you were only a Ranger fan, Chris Kreider, just a layup right there.

423
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Yeah.

424
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All right, so that, so that was a, that was a fun exercise.

425
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Thank you for, thank you for participating in that one.

426
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It was fun.

427
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Let's, let's transition into a little PS.

428
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You were up this week.

429
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We're talking television.

430
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Why don't you help explain what we were, what we were after? Yeah, so the inspiration, The New York Times, recently came out with the top 100 television programs of the 21st century.

431
00:29:16,104 --> 00:29:22,261
They had very strict rules about it, the show could not have started before the year 2000.

432
00:29:22,261 --> 00:29:27,572
If it had started before 2000, no matter how long it ran into the 2000s, you're out.

433
00:29:28,201 --> 00:29:30,332
We're looking at you, Tony Soprano.

434
00:29:30,642 --> 00:29:33,571
So, so those were, those were the basic rules.

435
00:29:33,573 --> 00:29:44,940
After that, um, and almost anything was considered a TV show ranging from, like, what was traditional TV to kind of, like, miniseries- Yeah with, like, various parts and so on and so forth.

436
00:29:45,514 --> 00:29:47,189
So that, was how The New York Times did it.

437
00:29:47,209 --> 00:29:55,949
I thought the way we could do it was, um, for each of us to, uh, ultimately narrow it down to our, our Mount Rushmore.

438
00:29:56,403 --> 00:30:04,664
Um, but in doing so, first just kind of, like, rapid fire on, like, who's in your consideration- Yeah set.

439
00:30:04,664 --> 00:30:13,927
Like, who's, who's even, you know, who are we talking about? Who, who'd you have to give several looks to? Juan, you, you wanna start with- Sure some of- Yeah, yeah what's on your list? Yeah.

440
00:30:13,938 --> 00:30:19,229
So let me just talk about two that are just a little bit before the consideration that you were just talking about.

441
00:30:19,479 --> 00:30:23,667
So one TV show that wasn't on that top 100 is called Counterpart.

442
00:30:24,058 --> 00:30:24,537
Here we go.

443
00:30:24,543 --> 00:30:26,371
Who knew we were gonna talk about J K- J.K.

444
00:30:26,384 --> 00:30:29,384
Simmons twice in this pod? It was only two seasons.

445
00:30:29,779 --> 00:30:31,161
I think it was Netflix.

446
00:30:31,197 --> 00:30:33,078
I just found my way, gave it a shot.

447
00:30:33,536 --> 00:30:38,617
I'm not typically a sci-fi guy, but this is a show that just hooked me from the beginning.

448
00:30:38,639 --> 00:30:39,043
Oh.

449
00:30:39,067 --> 00:30:44,398
So I'm hoping that you- I've seen this thing I'm hoping that you get a chance to, to see it at some point and we can talk about it.

450
00:30:44,398 --> 00:30:46,145
I'm just looking for someone to have- It is good.

451
00:30:46,145 --> 00:30:46,485
Okay.

452
00:30:46,485 --> 00:30:49,735
I, I will need a refresh- Yeah but I recall it is very good.

453
00:30:49,805 --> 00:30:55,136
Yeah, so one that's been on my, my longtime to-do list is Parks and Recreation.

454
00:30:55,152 --> 00:30:55,521
Mm.

455
00:30:55,620 --> 00:31:00,613
Amy Poehler, and of course, an ensemble cast, you know, so I will get to that.

456
00:31:00,689 --> 00:31:01,091
Mm-hmm.

457
00:31:01,489 --> 00:31:03,651
The Consideration is what, is what you mentioned.

458
00:31:03,704 --> 00:31:04,043
Yeah.

459
00:31:04,067 --> 00:31:04,982
So here's a few.

460
00:31:05,098 --> 00:31:07,189
Um, True Detective.

461
00:31:07,285 --> 00:31:07,530
Mm.

462
00:31:07,539 --> 00:31:12,754
That season one of Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson, that was a perfect pairing.

463
00:31:13,065 --> 00:31:17,035
Gripping, the Louisiana setting of the show, just fantastic.

464
00:31:17,245 --> 00:31:18,198
Totally hooked me.

465
00:31:18,835 --> 00:31:22,290
30 Rock, Tina Fey, AKA Liz Lemon.

466
00:31:22,333 --> 00:31:26,069
That one ranked kinda high- Yeah up in the, uh, in the Times, I think.

467
00:31:26,116 --> 00:31:29,145
Yeah, so that was kind of just breakthrough TV on TV.

468
00:31:29,476 --> 00:31:30,890
Curb, of course.

469
00:31:31,011 --> 00:31:31,078
Uh-huh.

470
00:31:31,141 --> 00:31:36,307
Uh, the whole thing, the ensemble cast, for me especially, Su- Curb in my consideration set.

471
00:31:36,385 --> 00:31:37,949
Yeah, so this is, same.

472
00:31:38,613 --> 00:31:45,165
Uh, so Susie Essman, of course, just, just one of the w- most wonderful actors who just blows it away in that show.

473
00:31:45,568 --> 00:31:47,001
And then Better Call Saul.

474
00:31:47,245 --> 00:31:57,687
Um, I will mention on Better Call Saul- In my consideration set same, right? So Rhea Seehorn, um, she was an absolute scene stealer as Kim Wexler.

475
00:31:58,070 --> 00:32:03,020
So that is, those were the four that were in my consideration for the top four.

476
00:32:03,081 --> 00:32:05,611
Okay, for the top four, but then you have a separate top four.

477
00:32:05,611 --> 00:32:06,805
I have a separate top four.

478
00:32:06,854 --> 00:32:07,968
All right, I'll do it like that.

479
00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:20,034
So the ones that came, uh, kind of close, uh, in my consideration set that you have not yet mentioned, I have Succession which, ended kind of recently.

480
00:32:20,531 --> 00:32:26,869
I have Halt and Catch Fire, sneaky good- Oh, okay kind of early computer age stuff.

481
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:28,590
I've been through the series twice.

482
00:32:28,605 --> 00:32:30,951
It is, it's really good.

483
00:32:31,209 --> 00:32:34,427
So that's easy top 10, but it is definitely in the consideration set.

484
00:32:34,857 --> 00:32:43,003
Also in con- in consideration set, um, from a comedy standpoint, The Office UK, the original.

485
00:32:43,285 --> 00:32:44,933
Yes, it's drier.

486
00:32:44,968 --> 00:32:50,952
I know everyone loves the US Office, and Steve Carell's a comedic genius, but I always take the original.

487
00:32:50,971 --> 00:32:56,379
And weren't there only, I think I read this when I was looking at that list- It's real quick, yeah wasn't it only, like, 12 episodes or something? Something crazy like that.

488
00:32:56,384 --> 00:33:04,725
So I am gonna p- of course, that was also on my to-do list, so I will- It is- I will report back on that one dry, dry, dry, but just hilarity ensues.

489
00:33:05,163 --> 00:33:10,662
Um, okay, last one, I think, on my consideration set, um, yeah.

490
00:33:10,706 --> 00:33:13,060
Well, yeah, two more actually.

491
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:16,788
Band of Brothers, um- Oh Band of Brothers.

492
00:33:16,828 --> 00:33:17,500
Wow.

493
00:33:17,595 --> 00:33:21,345
Uh, tough watch, but just amazing stuff.

494
00:33:21,828 --> 00:33:24,885
And, um, and then The Americans.

495
00:33:25,363 --> 00:33:25,755
Okay.

496
00:33:25,758 --> 00:33:30,412
The Americans also, uh, i- very close to, to cracking Rushmore.

497
00:33:30,529 --> 00:33:31,929
Uh- Oh, it's, oh, it's on mine.

498
00:33:32,091 --> 00:33:33,437
Uh- Okay, okay.

499
00:33:33,528 --> 00:33:34,033
All right.

500
00:33:34,033 --> 00:33:40,817
We should talk about the ending of that show sometime, but anyway, we- let's keep going- All right, so- for purposes of time so my Rushmore.

501
00:33:40,859 --> 00:33:47,825
Uh, you know, one and one a, we're on the same page here with The Wire and Breaking Bad, so I'll just sort of put that out there.

502
00:33:48,199 --> 00:33:50,292
Uh, let me talk about the other two.

503
00:33:50,977 --> 00:33:54,107
Friday Night Lights, uh, wow.

504
00:33:54,131 --> 00:34:01,831
I mean, this was a show that actually had to be saved, I think, from direct, by DirecTV because of low ratings on NBC.

505
00:34:01,883 --> 00:34:02,067
Yeah.

506
00:34:02,069 --> 00:34:07,491
I think I found my way to the show after all that and just streamed my way right through it.

507
00:34:07,811 --> 00:34:12,417
Um, complete family drama, breakout casting.

508
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:20,006
Two people I'd mention specifically, Connie Britton and Jesse Plemons, just, you know, again, two scene stealers for me on that show.

509
00:34:20,142 --> 00:34:20,544
Yeah.

510
00:34:20,588 --> 00:34:23,819
You mentioned- Jesse, Jesse Plemons of, uh, Breaking Bad.

511
00:34:23,872 --> 00:34:47,674
Yep, and you mentioned The Americans, so that is, again, you can sort of see my tendency towards family dramas in, in the top, top here, but the chemistry of, of, uh, Matthew Rhys and Keri Russell, um, fantastic Just two standout actors that I don't think had worked together before that, and wonderful.

512
00:34:47,769 --> 00:34:50,179
So just- Yeah, and then they, and then they got married in real life.

513
00:34:50,209 --> 00:34:50,601
Yeah.

514
00:34:50,763 --> 00:34:51,040
Yeah.

515
00:34:51,775 --> 00:34:58,653
Okay, uh, real fast on Rushmore, The Wire stands top and alone as the best show of all time.

516
00:34:59,204 --> 00:35:09,898
Breaking Bad, as you mentioned, and then I, I, I include Better Call Saul as a separate entry and right there with it, so I would clump those two together.

517
00:35:09,929 --> 00:35:10,157
Yep.

518
00:35:10,374 --> 00:35:19,786
Watch them in the correct order, I think, Breaking Bad, then Better Call Saul, but they're, they're different, but the characters overlap, and I just think, fantastic.

519
00:35:20,061 --> 00:35:26,314
And the, other one on my Rushmore that has not yet been discussed- Oh during this session is Mad Men.

520
00:35:26,954 --> 00:35:37,473
Um, advertising in the '60s, just kind of Succession-esque, like impeccable casting, impeccable writing, impeccable depth of characters.

521
00:35:37,475 --> 00:35:53,026
Like there are a lot of characters that you get to know across the advertising agency, and they all have amazing backstories, yeah, that felt like television art whenever you were watching that, scene by scene, bit by bit, just pitch point perfect.

522
00:35:53,143 --> 00:35:57,839
So- Pitch point perfect and the carousel episode with the, the Kodak.

523
00:35:57,868 --> 00:35:58,879
Oh, good stuff.

524
00:35:59,784 --> 00:36:03,503
All right, so that's our, that's our TV, our Rushmores.

525
00:36:04,105 --> 00:36:05,904
We'll leave it there for today.

526
00:36:06,732 --> 00:36:07,871
Thank you for listening.

527
00:36:08,358 --> 00:36:10,766
Until the next time, I'm Peter Olczyk.

528
00:36:11,651 --> 00:36:12,788
And I'm Scott Greenhut.

529
00:36:12,821 --> 00:36:23,355
Make sure to subscribe to S&P's Why Not Us on your favorite podcast player or check us out at our website, whynotuspod.com.

530
00:36:23,809 --> 00:36:29,193
and until next time, Peter and I are gonna put this episode in the books.