S&P’s Why Not Us?!: Episode # 9

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oh, by the way, uh, I don't think it's worthy of a podcast segment, but I, I swear to God, Did you know there's a Mascot Hall of Fame? Oh, the wife is in.

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Yeah.

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Wow, you knew this.

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Oh, common knowledge.

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I, uh...

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Why would we even- Well, no, no no, I, I knew An- I knew, I knew this would be one of the things that Andrew would be behind me on.

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I was like, I was like, "Dude, by the way, Mrs.

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Met's in."

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And he's like, "Oh, nice."

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I think Mr.

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Met, Mr.

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Met was part...

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of the second class.

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The second class? I went back- Okay I went back in time.

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Is Was in the first? It was the Chicken.

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It may have been, the Gorilla for Phoenix.

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Oh, that does sound kinda like- Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah no, the Gorilla, respect.

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The Gorilla.

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And then it was weird, it was weird, and we can talk about it later, that Mrs...

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When you go, if you go down that rabbit hole that I saw, Mrs.

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Met...

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Well, she was Lady Met back in m- 1975.

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Yeah.

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So she was a thing.

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And then came back in like 2008 as Mrs.

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Met, and then that sort of led us to now.

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To this great moment, and she is the first, female inductee- Yeah into the Mascot Hall of Fame.

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Yeah, so that's, that's amazing for her.

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So it's great.

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I mean, if you wanna talk about women's rights movement.

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All right.

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All right.

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Just saying.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Forget these.

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Don't wanna hear- Yep.

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Yep that we're still stuck in 1972- All right.

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Okay, forget when we have Lady Met.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Yeah, you can forget you said all that.

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Welcome to S&P's Why Not Us, the podcast still trying to figure out how the Dodgers can rent a two-time Cy Young winner like it's Tuesday while our Mets pay World Series money for a team that is already playing like it's October, but not in a good way.

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I'm your host Scott Greenhut and on the other side of the mic Peter Olczyk.

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Great to be here.

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J- just, just for the record the Mets have just won four games in a row which a- on the road which is the longest streak for this team since 2024 which was a special year.

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So anyway that happened.

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So just, just, just saying.

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Duly noted and what place does that put us in? It's very, no very much in last.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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In today's episode we'll highlight a couple of NFL teams under extra pressure plus a couple likely to bounce back this year, continue our Jets Look Back summer series concluding with a playoff game that's as painful as ever, and pick two of our most underrated former New York pro athletes.

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But we begin with some key takeaways from the MLB trade deadline which you just touched on.

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So I think maybe we'll start, you want to get a little bit into the AL East? Kick us off.

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Starting with the AL East, one of the biggest moves that, was made, Rochman to Boston, yeah.

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Oriole moving a former number one overall pick to a division rival no less.

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Mm-hmm.

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Found that to be surprising.

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Well on that one, you know it's funny these divisional trades are becoming more popular with the third wild card of the last few years, so that's, that's interesting.

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Right.

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That's true.

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That's true.

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Interesting, yeah.

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But yeah, Boston, you know they've now won nine straight again.

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So if you're keeping score at home that's 32 and 5 over the last, uh, 37 games.

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Whoa.

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Yeah, so still streaking.

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And also they're gonna get back likely Roman Anthony in the late August who's had a very tough lingering wrist injury.

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Question mark on Garrett Crochet on the pitching side with the lat.

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So, the vibes in Boston are, are high.

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Yes.

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Tampa is still up five games right now.

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Of course they did not get Tarik Skubal.

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I was rooting for them to get Tarik Skubal.

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Mm-hmm.

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They did get a catcher, left-handed bat, Liam Hicks from Miami.

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Good player, uh, still under control, so you know kind of a typical Miami thing.

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The Yankees Great move in getting Luis Garcia.

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He was leading the NL in slugging, uh, for Washington- Yes when that happened.

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Yes, playing without Aaron Judge, so- Needing some of that.

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Um, they also got, uh, Elliot Ramos, who is a righty bat, uh, strong against the lefties.

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He came from San Francisco.

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So a little bit light, but the Yankees stuff, as we'll get to, is probably gonna, question mark what comes from within.

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And then Toronto was actually kinda nifty.

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They were sellers on rentals, so starting pitchers Kevin Gausman and Daulton Varsho, the outfielder.

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But they were buyers for pitchers under control, José Soriano from the Angels, and Spencer Arrighetti from the Astros.

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So I think the fan base for Toronto is probably feeling overall pretty okay with how things went down in what's probably a lost season, unless they get crazy hot.

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So that's the AL East thing for me.

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There was another team I th- I wanted to tee up, The Cubbies.

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The Cubbies, yeah.

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The Cubbies got, got, uh, one of our guys.

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They got two of our guys.

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They got Clay Holmes and Tyrone Taylor.

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Right.

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Tyrone Taylor, but then again, Peter, uh, Crow-Armstrong was-..

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was one of ours too- Yeah that we gave the Cubs.

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Um, I hear he's doing okay.

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Yeah, yeah.

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We'll get back into that- MVP race maybe next time, which is now full on since Shohei isn't pitching these days.

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What the hell.

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I'd love to go back and t- we've got to figure out who we actually got for that guy.

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We, we can go, we can go back through the history of that one.

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It's not good.

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Um, also on the Cubbies, here's a name which I thought was interesting.

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Ryan Zephyr John is a relief pitcher from the Angels.

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A little nugget from Mike Petriello, uh, MLB.com,

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who's great with getting into kind of the analytics.

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His four seam fastball has been the lowest batting average and the lowest slug of any pitch type in baseball this year.

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So that's both starters and relievers.

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Um, all right.

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So locally, anything else you want to touch on, on our, on our Mets before we get to the Yankees for a sec? Well, I guess the Mets, what'd we do? We shipped out, um, seven players I think is my count.

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Eight from the roster.

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Okay.

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Eight from the roster, getting maybe 12 or so in return.

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13.

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Yeah.

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So I'm missing the one.

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Pretty much a full retool,.

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did we get a fantastic return for Freddy Peralta? Maybe, maybe not.

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We'll see.

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Then again, he wasn't pitching that great.

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So- Yeah so there was that.

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I don't know.

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What do you think? You know, I, I think just overall the way I'm looking at it is that we got a lot of depth back into the organization.

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So I think there's more opportunity in the off-season for David Stearns in what's probably gonna be an uncertain off-season, especially with a looming lockout.

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For sure, yeah.

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So that's gonna be tricky.

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Yeah.

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On the players' side, you know, the name that seems like could come fastest for us to kind of watch and get to know better is Jefferson Rojas, who's a shortstop third baseman.

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He was in that Clay Holmes deal to Chicago that we touched on.

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Yeah.

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You know, kind of like the number 63 overall, uh- prospect right now.

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The Yankees.

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So how about George Lombard? Uh, 21 years old, makes his debut the other day.

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Two sterling plays in the field, hits one out.

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That's gonna be fun for the Yankees.

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Hopefully, he just plays good defense, doesn't worry about the pressure on the offensive side of the ball, but it's something that the Yankees could really use right now in terms of stability in the infield.

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And then the big question marks around Cody Bellinger and Aaron Judge in terms of their health.

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You know, Bellinger with the hamstring strain, Judge with the fractured right rib.

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Those two players are absolutely core for the Yankees to, uh, to go deep in what's a very winnable American League that we've been talking about, and try to go in all the way to the series.

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I have, Heard differing things on Judge.

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I've heard a little bit of accusations of masking.

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They say it might be a little worse than- Right than they're letting on.

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But we'll see.

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Um, you know, ribs, ouch, for baseball.

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Never good in any sport, but I don't know.

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Somehow Running Bass could, you know, put on the flap jacket back in the day and- My guy, Freeman McNeil all right, let's get into a little bit of the NFL.

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So we thought we would do, uh, teams both under pressure and bounce-back candidates.

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Uh, you got the NFC.

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Yeah.

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So why don't you do the team under pressure from the NFC? Yep.

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Team under pressure, Los Angeles Rams.

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Hm.

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Coming off the NFC Championship appearance, um, and then went all in in the off-season trading for Myles Garrett.

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Also added, uh, Trent McDuffie and Jalen Watson on defense.

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So the window is now.

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This is not a long-term building exercise you definitely don't trade for the best, the best pass rusher, in football to finish nine and eight.

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You have the AFC for fresher team, and who do you got? Absolutely.

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Yeah, it's gotta be the Buffalo Bills for me.

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Con- six consecutive playoffs led by Josh Allen, who for me is the top quarterback in the league.

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But for the Bills, Super Bowl drought since 1993 when they had got to the Super Bowl four straight years.

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And then all the stuff that's been happening in the off-season, new coaching staff, head coach Joe Brady, who was promoted from offensive coordinator.

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Jim Leonard, defensive coordinator who comes over from Denver, and of course he played four years in Buffalo, so a bit of a fan favorite there.

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New stadium, so in, in week two, they get the primetime game for the Thursday nighter, and it apparently it's being billed to be the loudest stadium in the NFL.

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Bills.

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I see what you did.

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Now, I don't know what Seattle might say about that with the 12th man, and then DJ Moore comes over from the Bears, so that's a good get.

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So it seems like all the pieces are in place.

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And by the way, the AFC East, which, you know, I know pretty well, it's a pretty weak division.

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So this seems like a great opportunity and an important year for Buffalo to try to get past, uh, the divisional round and, uh, and see if they can get back to championship game all right, the, the bounce back.

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NFC.

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Yeah.

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Who you got? I have the Minnesota Vikings.

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Two years ago, 14 and three under Sam Darnold, then cr- just cratered last year under- JJ McCarthy's first year as starter.

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Yeah.

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So this year, open QB competition at camp, they still have a really solid team, overall.

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So, If you can just get the quarterback situation settled, I'm looking for them to have a super solid year.

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And in division, I'll just note that Green Bay Packers, Micah Parsons.

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They made a big deal for him, uh- Right for two first-rounders, but now he's, uh, out with an injury, unfortunate for, for, for them, but maybe window open a little bit, even more for the Vikes.

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Yep, yep.

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This is pretty chalky for my bounce back in the AFC, but Cincinnati Bengals, six and 11 last year.

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Um, you know, Joe Burrow had some injuries, and the defense just had a, a really tough season.

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So now, for me, Joe Burrow healthy is a consensus top five quarterback.

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It starts there.

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New look defense.

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Big trade for, for your guy, defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence.

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Sexy Dexy.

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And, extremely aggressive in free agency as well on that side of the ball.

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And then also, one of the top five easiest schedules, just 'cause this just came out the other day, based upon opponents' projected win total.

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So you put all that stuff together, it feels like Cincinnati- It's a big deal it feels like Cincinnati's- Strength of schedule, huge.

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Yeah.

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It feels like they're going back to the playoffs.

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Again, uh, knock on wood that Joe Burrow stays healthy, because he is still really good.

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All right.

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Is it time for our- Here we go special segment? Part three.

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Wow.

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It's amazing.

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You have incredible fortitude, and again, I will note for, for the, all the listeners at home, still wearing, uh, the Jet T-shirt loud and proud- Absolutely um, as we, as we work our way through a storied history.,

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What we've decided, is we're gonna skip over 1991 and head straight to the '98 team.

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Yeah.

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Did you wanna set some context for that team? Yeah, so '98, this has gotta be the best roster at this point in time through my Jets fandom.

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Uh, the team went 12 and 4.

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They won their last six.

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7 and 1 at home.

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Well, that doesn't happen.

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Uh, Head Coach Bill Parcells.

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Exactly you may know something about that.

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Yeah, I sure do Assistant Head Coach and Defensive Coordinator, Bill Belichick.

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And then on the roster side of things, uh, Vinny Testaverde had an amazing season for us that year.

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He was 35, 12 and 1 as a starter, uh, Pro Bowl.

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Running back, Hall of Fame Curtis Martin, Pro Bowl.

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The receivers, great deal, Keyshawn Johnson and Wayne Chrebet.

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Keyshawn was a Pro Bowler that year as well.

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At center, one of my favorites, Hall of Famer Kevin Mawae, just an absolute stud.

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Mm-hmm.

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Mo Lewis right there as well.

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Mm.

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Um, All-Pro linebacker, and then there's somebody named Aaron Glenn, who's actually currently coach of our team, who was a Pro Bowler that year as well.

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So this team is stacked so we get a bye.

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The Jets don't get byes.

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This is not something that happens.

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We're the number two seed.

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You don't even know what to do during the Wild Card Week.

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That's amazing.

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So here we go.

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Um, January 10th in '99, they're hosting Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Now, that's only their fourth season in the league.

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They were, um, they came in in, in '95 with expansion.

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Tom Coughlin, there's another name for you there.

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It's the head coach for Jacksonville.

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Oh, wow.

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Good guy.

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Yeah.

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And this game, really, the Jets were in total control, you know.

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Uh, the final was 34-24.

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Keyshawn had a first-half touchdown, and he had a lovely end-around touchdown run.

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Jags had three turnovers.

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It was comfortable, not stressful so then, then there's the AFC Championship game- Yeah at Denver.

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Uh, let's just start with this question, which is- were you more confident entering that game because Bill Parcells was your coach? We could not have been in a better position to try to hang with a really good Denver Broncos team, the one-two of Bill Parcells overall, and Belichick, who is just a, you know, absolute genius on the coordinator side of things, you know, I mean, but then aga- you know, Denver's 14 and 2 that year.

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Mm-hmm.

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John Elway's swan song Right, his 16th season.

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John Elway's 38, his last, uh, his last season.

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But look, look, look at their roster.

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They got a Hall of Famer and, and, uh, MVP of that season, Terrell Davis.

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They got a Hall of Famer at tight end in Shannon Sharpe.

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And then, and then Elway with, with one more swan song, so, you know, we, we had it, we had to play really well and, uh, to see if we could hang.

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But- Yeah.

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Okay And also, I would say weather-wise, you could tell by watching the game.

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Yeah.

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Very windy, so this was definitely something that would, uh, come into play during the game.

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I did my homework here, watched, watched the incredible, YouTube footage.

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Mm.

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Defensive battle.

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Jets get a field goal right before half, go in three-nothing.

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And then I believe it was early in the second half where you get the, uh, the block punt.

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Incredible.

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And then you cash that in, you know, from the one.

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That's b- How you feeling right there? Amazing.

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Blake Spence, uh, who is just kind of a, you know, a reserve linebacker, amazing play.

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Uh, a block punt for the Jets, come on.

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No big deal.

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10-0.

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Right.

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Defensive game.

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We just talked about it.

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No one's scoring.

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Boom.

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Off the, you know, let's call it a turnover.

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That's the best way.

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And then, um, I wrote, this is my own notes.

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Yeah.

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Wheels fall off from here.

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Oh, no.

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Kiss of death sequence, but I, I wrote down allowed a long return.

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Yeah.

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Allowed a bomb for a quick TD, and then turnover on the ensuing kickoff.

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Just bada bing, bada boom, bada bam.

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Yeah.

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So, you know, Denver immediately answers.

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It was like three plays, 64 yards.

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Elway a TD to running back Howard Griffith.

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That seemed pretty quick for them.

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All of a sudden it's 10-7.

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And then this kickoff, so we talked about the wind.

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So it was a short kickoff, held up by the wind.

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There's all these deflections.

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It's a scramble.

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It's really nobody's fault, but everybody's on the ground.

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Of course, Denver comes up with it.

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Yeah.

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Uh, that is a dagger.

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And then, you know, not so much- Yeah later, there's a 44-yard field goal.

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Yeah.

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And the game's tied, just like that.

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That's right.

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And then, the Broncos, get another field goal.

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Yep.

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Up 13-10.

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So after Denver went up 13-10, this is the point of the game where things better get going well right now, or you can tell that the better team, is really gonna take advantage.

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And that drive from Denver when they went up, after they went up three, it just seemed inevitable.

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I mean, Terrell Davis is just such a stud.

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Just been waiting all game that maybe we were going to, um, slip and he would break one.

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He hits a crease on a pitch.

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He's off to the races, 31 yards.

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Right at that point, that's when you kinda knew that- This wasn't gonna get any better.

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And I will say that the fourth quarter was a very tough watch.

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We were outplayed, to use today's parlance, in all three phases.

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Well- It ends up being 23-10.

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Yeah.

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Elway gets the mile high salute to the crowd, which is, you know, amazing if you're a Broncos fan.

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And I will say that I, I've been thinking about this one.

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I have an apology to make, um, to our good buddy and loyal listener, Matt.

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Um, we watched that game together- in, in, in my apartment.

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And I would say early third quarter after- uh, after the blocked punt, Matt somehow maybe just teed up like, "Oh, are we maybe, would we maybe go to the Super Bowl? Would we maybe look into tickets?" That kind of thing.

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And I, I, I'm pretty sure I tried to shut that down immediately for the football gods, but it lingered.

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So I wanna say, Matt, it is not your fault.

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The better team won.

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Yes, I apologize for, um, making you feel like that- for that result.

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Fantastic.

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I love that.

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Yeah, So we are going to fast-forward- yeah.

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Yeah, a quick summary on 2001 and 2002.

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Uh- Yeah wild card game after the 2001 season.

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Now we g- uh, just head coach is now Herm Edwards.

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Yep.

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Uh, so we're January 2002.

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It's a wild card loss at Oakland, 38-24.

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Yep.

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Uh, we had actually played Oakland the week before in the regular season, but couldn't win two in a row.

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Raiders are in control that whole game.

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The outcome was never really in doubt Yeah, tied at the half, but, uh, from there, bye-bye.

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Yeah.

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Uh, so pretty comfortable win for, for the Raiders.

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Now, the next year we got a wild card game at home versus Indianapolis, and this is, this is the blowout.

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This is the one that happened, 41 to three.

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Everything went well.

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By the way, head coach for the Colts is Tony Dungy, who was Herm Edwards' mentor and very good friend.

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But quarterback Chad Pennington was completely on point.

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Curtis Martin, Richie Anderson as the fullback kind of jumps into that one.

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The wide receiver duo, Wayne Chrebet and Laveranues Coles, who we love.

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Kevin Mawae still there, played great.

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And then the defensive ends, John Abraham and Shaun Big Cat Ellis.

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When those two guys were healthy and together, that was as close as we were getting to the sack exchange back from the day.

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And at linebacker, Mo Lewis and Marvin Jones, so there's lots of, you know, lots of talent there.

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So we get that one.

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Uh, and then of course, Oakland again the following week get blown out.

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It looks like a completely different team.

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Ugly second half, turnovers everywhere.

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I think they outscored us 20 to zero in the second half and, and that was that.

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Uh, and then we finally get to, a big game to talk about in, uh, 20- after 2004.

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So we have the wild card game at San Diego.

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Chad Pennington, QB, lots of rain the, dynamic duo of Al Michaels- Wow and John Madden- The best coming together for that one.

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This, this had a big game feel in every way.

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Yeah.

363
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I did enjoy when I watched the, the game.

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Al I'm still used to because he's Al, but just hearing John Madden again was, oh my God.

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A pleasure.

366
00:20:49,825.8972404 --> 00:20:50,525.8962404
Yeah, that was great.

367
00:20:51,165.8972404 --> 00:20:52,805.8972404
So we get into that game.

368
00:20:52,805.8972404 --> 00:21:01,155.8952404
I mean, I guess maybe snafu number one- Jets miss a, uh, a short field goal that, that would've given them, uh, the lead.

369
00:21:01,775.8952404 --> 00:21:02,425.8952404
Ouch.

370
00:21:02,505.8942404 --> 00:21:07,865.8942404
Uh, you're a road dog in, in bad weather, so- A big one you kinda want that one.

371
00:21:07,925.8972404 --> 00:21:19,315.8962404
Um, this game also featured the other LT, as I affectionately- Oh, yeah uh, refer to LaDainian Tomlinson, uh, his coming out party as a playoff back.

372
00:21:19,675.8972404 --> 00:21:23,15.8972404
So what was that like watching that guy? Yeah.

373
00:21:23,15.8972404 --> 00:21:29,85.8992404
You know, it seems like we have the pleasure of watching really great Hall of Fame running backs that are- against us.

374
00:21:29,185.9022404 --> 00:21:35,555.8982404
LT, amazing, and of course, he ends up coming to the Jets later on, which we'll see whether that, that gets talked about.

375
00:21:35,575.9012404 --> 00:21:39,955.9012404
Yeah, I mean, this, you know, this Chargers team was, was good.

376
00:21:40,415.9032404 --> 00:21:42,785.9032404
But we played really competitively.

377
00:21:42,785.9032404 --> 00:21:46,215.9032404
I mean, it starts not so good, right? The missed field goal you talked about.

378
00:21:46,275.9032404 --> 00:21:46,585.9032404
Yep.

379
00:21:46,645.9032404 --> 00:21:52,255.9032404
And then, uh- But then you, you- Drew, Drew Brees Drew Brees You know, Hall of Famer Drew Brees throws one to Keenan McCardell.

380
00:21:52,255.9032404 --> 00:21:53,795.9032404
Controversial catch.

381
00:21:53,865.9032404 --> 00:21:54,655.9032404
Oh my God.

382
00:21:54,675.9022404 --> 00:21:59,325.9032404
So this is a slight overthrow on 27 yards to the back of the end zone.

383
00:21:59,665.9032404 --> 00:22:01,945.9032404
McCardell drags his second foot.

384
00:22:01,975.9022404 --> 00:22:04,165.9022404
It's initially called incomplete.

385
00:22:04,275.9022404 --> 00:22:06,815.9022404
There's a challenge, I think from the booth.

386
00:22:06,865.9022404 --> 00:22:09,215.9022404
And they correctly called it a touchdown.

387
00:22:09,215.9032404 --> 00:22:09,515.9032404
Yeah, it was quiet.

388
00:22:09,515.9032404 --> 00:22:13,105.9022404
That was an amazing- It was catch at the back of the end zone.

389
00:22:13,115.9042404 --> 00:22:15,155.9002404
So full respect there.

390
00:22:15,165.9032404 --> 00:22:17,555.8982404
So now we're, um- We're down, now we're down seven.

391
00:22:17,555.8982404 --> 00:22:18,685.9002404
It's seven zip at that point.

392
00:22:18,745.8982404 --> 00:22:20,955.8992404
But then the good stuff- Yeah, then the good- Then the good stuff starts to happen.

393
00:22:20,975.8972404 --> 00:22:21,435.8972404
Okay.

394
00:22:21,455.8962404 --> 00:22:21,815.8962404
Yeah Where he was seven yards.

395
00:22:21,815.8962404 --> 00:22:28,625.8962404
So, yeah, so we tie it up, you know, with Pennington with the little dump pass to Anthony Becht, who, by the way, is the radio analyst these days.

396
00:22:28,635.8972404 --> 00:22:30,195.8952404
So that tied it up at seven.

397
00:22:30,625.8952404 --> 00:22:39,65.8962404
And then Reggie Tongue at safety gets an interception off the deflection- um, which kind of prevents a late field goal or touchdown, so that's great.

398
00:22:39,115.9002404 --> 00:22:40,25.8952404
That's a positive.

399
00:22:40,475.8932404 --> 00:22:42,265.8972404
Now we're into the third quarter.

400
00:22:42,525.8962404 --> 00:22:43,905.8982404
Solid opening drive.

401
00:22:44,425.8932404 --> 00:22:44,765.8932404
Right.

402
00:22:44,785.8942404 --> 00:22:48,245.8962404
So I'm already at seven all.

403
00:22:48,245.8962404 --> 00:22:48,265.8962404
Yeah.

404
00:22:48,265.8962404 --> 00:22:53,435.8962404
And then, and I'm noting a, uh, a, a bomb from, from your guy- Okay Chad Pennington to Santana Moss.

405
00:22:53,555.8952404 --> 00:23:02,795.8982404
Chad Pennington's ball to Santana Moss, that you just mentioned, has gotta be his best pass in the NF- in his NFL history.

406
00:23:02,835.9022404 --> 00:23:05,925.9012404
Perfect play action, deep strike, 47 yards.

407
00:23:05,925.9012404 --> 00:23:07,315.8992404
He beat double coverage.

408
00:23:07,485.8952404 --> 00:23:10,745.8972404
I must have watched that ball three or four times in the replay.

409
00:23:11,175.8982404 --> 00:23:12,275.8962404
It's, it's incredible.

410
00:23:12,285.8982404 --> 00:23:12,555.8982404
So there you go.

411
00:23:12,555.8982404 --> 00:23:13,825.8982404
More angles, please.

412
00:23:13,835.9022404 --> 00:23:17,45.8942404
We're, yeah, we're up s- we're up seven and feeling very, very good.

413
00:23:17,55.8952404 --> 00:23:24,885.8952404
You're, you're up seven, and then you have a long field goal in the rain, and, um, double doink.

414
00:23:24,935.8992404 --> 00:23:28,945.8952404
Double doink but good, I guess we should- maybe just make that point also.

415
00:23:28,965.9002404 --> 00:23:29,355.9002404
Yeah.

416
00:23:29,355.9002404 --> 00:23:29,575.9002404
Yeah.

417
00:23:29,575.9002404 --> 00:23:35,855.8912404
40, 42-yarder, um, double doink field goal, as John Madden said on the broadcast.

418
00:23:35,855.8922404 --> 00:23:39,315.9042404
It hit the right post and then went off the left post, and then dropped in.

419
00:23:39,615.9022404 --> 00:23:43,55.9012404
So in terms of the football gods, that's as good as it gets.

420
00:23:43,185.8942404 --> 00:23:47,545.9022404
We're up 10, 17-7, and, and we sort of walk into the fourth quarter.

421
00:23:48,105.8952404 --> 00:23:51,55.8872404
Antonio Gates, you know, has a, he's wide open.

422
00:23:51,55.8922404 --> 00:23:55,485.8882404
Of course, our inability over the years to cover tight ends just, you know, comes through again.

423
00:23:55,485.8882404 --> 00:23:57,365.8852404
But there's another Hall of Famer for you.

424
00:23:57,365.8902404 --> 00:23:58,655.8942404
A huge catch and run.

425
00:23:59,65.8862404 --> 00:24:04,245.8952404
Pretty easy touchdown in a little bit to, um- The fourth and goal from the two.

426
00:24:04,785.8952404 --> 00:24:10,465.8952404
Uh, and then Drew Brees, out of nowhere, is scrambling backwards.

427
00:24:10,465.8952404 --> 00:24:14,945.8952404
He has nowhere to throw on a fourth and goal- This With 24 seconds left.

428
00:24:15,235.8952404 --> 00:24:23,405.8952404
And then Eric- Incredible pressure under, yeah, he's going straight backwards, and then Eric Barton does make contact with his right hand to the helmet.

429
00:24:23,415.8942404 --> 00:24:24,655.8952404
You have to make that call.

430
00:24:24,655.8952404 --> 00:24:26,395.8942404
I'm sure he would say the same thing.

431
00:24:26,645.8942404 --> 00:24:30,215.8952404
So that automatically turns it into a first and goal from the one.

432
00:24:30,365.8952404 --> 00:24:31,285.8942404
That's a death blow.

433
00:24:31,325.8942404 --> 00:24:36,385.8932404
Can I just comment? Now there's- How are you just- Yeah glossy over that? That is, that is just, you did the thing.

434
00:24:36,485.8942404 --> 00:24:37,625.8942404
They're going for it.

435
00:24:38,315.8962404 --> 00:24:39,535.8922404
You did the pressure.

436
00:24:39,825.8942404 --> 00:24:48,85.8932404
Be- because as a Jets fan, you're always ready for that thing, and you just have to deal with it and get back into the present.

437
00:24:48,285.8932404 --> 00:24:48,715.8922404
Oh, my goodness.

438
00:24:48,725.8962404 --> 00:24:58,275.8932404
So the present is now first and goal from 15 seconds, and as I was touching on before, guess who? Antonio Gates, pretty easy touchdown.

439
00:24:58,325.8942404 --> 00:24:58,715.8942404
Yeah.

440
00:24:58,855.8932404 --> 00:25:02,755.8952404
Game is tied, and, uh, we're back to overtime again.

441
00:25:02,855.8952404 --> 00:25:08,137.8952404
And let me just state here you're the road team.

442
00:25:09,87.8952404 --> 00:25:10,697.8952404
You're going out for overtime.

443
00:25:10,697.8952404 --> 00:25:13,37.8952404
That means you get to call the coin flip.

444
00:25:13,747.8942404 --> 00:25:16,597.8942404
You called heads? Oh, my Lord.

445
00:25:17,167.8952404 --> 00:25:18,257.8942404
Such a rookie move.

446
00:25:18,277.8952404 --> 00:25:20,207.8942404
I was watching that in disbelief.

447
00:25:20,357.8952404 --> 00:25:22,247.8942404
You always call tails in these moments.

448
00:25:22,347.8952404 --> 00:25:25,497.8952404
Oh, that's- I mean, so jet that, that- So jet that's, that's good to know.

449
00:25:25,497.8952404 --> 00:25:26,997.8942404
I, I, I'm gonna make a mental note of that one.

450
00:25:26,997.8942404 --> 00:25:28,117.8942404
Yeah, you really should.

451
00:25:28,167.8952404 --> 00:25:29,287.8952404
I, I couldn't believe it.

452
00:25:29,327.8942404 --> 00:25:29,847.8942404
Okay.

453
00:25:30,77.8942404 --> 00:25:31,777.8952404
Just wanted to make that comment.

454
00:25:31,777.8952404 --> 00:25:33,837.8942404
I don't know, the announcers seemed to overlook it as well.

455
00:25:34,217.8942404 --> 00:25:35,757.8972404
Let's get into the overtime.

456
00:25:35,767.8932404 --> 00:25:40,487.8952404
There's a big third and one stop on LT, and then we go three and out.

457
00:25:41,127.8942404 --> 00:25:43,437.8932404
Uh, the Chargers march down the field.

458
00:25:43,897.8942404 --> 00:25:49,997.8932404
We force a fourth down, 40-yard field goal for the Chargers to win it, wide right.

459
00:25:50,887.8962404 --> 00:25:52,327.8962404
So we get a lucky miss.

460
00:25:52,387.8942404 --> 00:26:07,607.8912404
And that just- Yeah is that, is that the time where now we can take advantage and win a game on the road? Quarterback Chad Pennington throws a, uh, great low ball to a sliding Santana Moss, throws one to Justin McCarin, who had a really good game.

461
00:26:07,897.8892404 --> 00:26:15,277.8882404
But the play that really stuck out at me, I don't know if you saw this one, Lamont Jordan, kind of our, uh, change of pace back, if you will.

462
00:26:15,297.8902404 --> 00:26:16,587.8872404
Big guy, but fast.

463
00:26:17,57.8922404 --> 00:26:22,457.8902404
Great vision and speed to cut outside, turn the corner for a big gain to the 15.

464
00:26:23,507.8892404 --> 00:26:24,527.8942404
So here we go.

465
00:26:24,627.8922404 --> 00:26:29,337.8952404
Tick, tick, tick, and we're down to Doug Bryan with a 28-yard field goal to win it.

466
00:26:30,157.8952404 --> 00:26:30,927.8952404
Ballgame.

467
00:26:31,487.8902404 --> 00:26:34,587.8942404
But no, there are whistles all over the place.

468
00:26:34,697.8902404 --> 00:26:36,777.8902404
Apparently, San Diego gets the timeout.

469
00:26:36,777.8922404 --> 00:26:41,587.8912404
I, uh, I guess that happened, but it was a little- Ugh a little annoying to have to rewatch that.

470
00:26:42,37.8862404 --> 00:26:48,97.8852404
Th- then, you know, for the ice, for the, uh, to ice the kicker, and then Doug Bryan smoothly puts it in again.

471
00:26:48,117.8882404 --> 00:26:50,957.8892404
Ballgame, 20-17, on to Pittsburgh.

472
00:26:53,583.8912404 --> 00:26:54,403.8912404
Unbelievable.

473
00:26:54,483.8912404 --> 00:26:58,163.8912404
They should have lost so many different ways, but pulled it out.

474
00:26:58,163.8912404 --> 00:26:59,103.8912404
So un-Jet.

475
00:27:00,283.8912404 --> 00:27:06,623.8902404
Gutty effort, yeah, you s- you just cherish- There was- You cherish those ones anyway, perseverance.

476
00:27:06,653.8862404 --> 00:27:09,373.8862404
Um, on to Pittsburgh, right? Yeah.

477
00:27:09,853.8872404 --> 00:27:10,343.8872404
Great.

478
00:27:10,393.8902404 --> 00:27:12,443.8872404
This one for the divisional round.

479
00:27:13,83.8892404 --> 00:27:14,473.8892404
This is rookie Big Ben.

480
00:27:14,723.8882404 --> 00:27:16,173.8892404
Yeah, a little bit of context for this one..

481
00:27:16,173.8892404 --> 00:27:19,133.8882404
So it's cold, but not windy.

482
00:27:19,273.8872404 --> 00:27:24,413.8872404
Um, Dick Enberg and Dan Dierdorf on the call for CBS, which was fun.

483
00:27:24,933.8912404 --> 00:27:30,503.8902404
So Pittsburgh, Bill Cowher is head coach, a rookie Big Ben, as you talked about.

484
00:27:30,563.8882404 --> 00:27:33,973.8842404
Now there's lots of sort of drama right at the beginning.

485
00:27:34,243.8882404 --> 00:27:35,653.8872404
He's wearing a glove.

486
00:27:35,763.8852404 --> 00:27:37,43.8892404
He's checking his thumb.

487
00:27:37,43.8892404 --> 00:27:41,253.8862404
Is it really hurt? So there was question as to whether he's gonna be, feel comfortable throwing the ball.

488
00:27:41,693.8882404 --> 00:27:43,893.8902404
That was, that was before you knew he was RoboCop.

489
00:27:45,63.8862404 --> 00:27:45,373.8862404
Yeah.

490
00:27:45,373.8862404 --> 00:27:45,903.8902404
It didn't matter.

491
00:27:45,903.8902404 --> 00:27:51,893.8932404
Uh, Jerome Bettis, uh, Hall of Fame running back, this is his last season.

492
00:27:51,933.8892404 --> 00:28:00,303.8862404
Um, and he was back as a starter because Duce Staley had a hamstring injury, so Bettis had, uh, just been playing the last few games again.

493
00:28:01,313.8862404 --> 00:28:09,503.8852404
And then their wide receivers, stacked, Hines Ward, Plaxico Burress, and then Antonio Randle El, kind of a do-it-all player.

494
00:28:10,123.8922404 --> 00:28:13,43.8892404
The defense, of course, right on brand for Pittsburgh.

495
00:28:13,53.8922404 --> 00:28:15,603.8892404
Number one D, Blitzburgh, as they called it.

496
00:28:15,933.8892404 --> 00:28:25,963.8952404
You know, a few of those players, Joey Porter, a former Jet, James Farrior, and then of course Troy Polamalu in his third year, first team All-Pro.

497
00:28:26,333.8832404 --> 00:28:30,173.8952404
Pittsburgh hadn't lost a game all year, Terrible Towels everywhere.

498
00:28:30,363.8822404 --> 00:28:33,553.8902404
And by the way, we had played already that season, of course.

499
00:28:33,613.8822404 --> 00:28:35,933.8892404
Pittsburgh won 17 to 6.

500
00:28:35,983.8892404 --> 00:28:38,583.8982404
So that's the context for the divisional game.

501
00:28:38,583.8982404 --> 00:28:44,813.9002404
First quarter we force a fourth down, 45-yard field goal for, for Pittsburgh.

502
00:28:44,813.9002404 --> 00:28:46,43.9002404
They go up three-zip.

503
00:28:46,673.9002404 --> 00:28:51,183.9012404
Chad Pennington next possession throws an interception to, of course, Troy Polamalu.

504
00:28:51,193.8992404 --> 00:28:53,823.9022404
He had done, he picked one off in the first game as well.

505
00:28:54,473.9022404 --> 00:28:57,963.9012404
And, uh, more power football from Pittsburgh.

506
00:28:59,253.9012404 --> 00:29:01,823.9032404
Ended up being an easy touchdown for, for, from the three.

507
00:29:01,983.9002404 --> 00:29:02,183.9002404
Yeah.

508
00:29:02,223.9022404 --> 00:29:03,263.9032404
And we're down 10-zip.

509
00:29:03,533.9032404 --> 00:29:03,913.9032404
Yep.

510
00:29:04,3.9012404 --> 00:29:05,153.9032404
So that's the first quarter.

511
00:29:07,193.9032404 --> 00:29:09,463.9022404
Yeah, so some amazing stuff in the second quarter.

512
00:29:09,493.9022404 --> 00:29:13,993.9072404
There's a 42-yard field goal attempt, very high snap.

513
00:29:14,283.9032404 --> 00:29:19,903.9012404
Toby Gowin, who's a name I had not remembered, makes an incredible hold, snares it, brings it down.

514
00:29:20,233.9002404 --> 00:29:25,693.9032404
Doug Brien takes a beat, stops, kicks it through, so it's 10-3 on the board.

515
00:29:26,213.9032404 --> 00:29:30,313.9032404
Uh, I think maybe the next possession, a couple of great defensive plays.

516
00:29:30,723.9062404 --> 00:29:35,203.8992404
Bryan Thomas, who was filling in for a hurt John Abraham, an open field tackle on Bettis.

517
00:29:35,213.9032404 --> 00:29:39,103.9092404
Fun fact- Yeah my wife once sat next to Bryan Thomas on an airplane.

518
00:29:39,123.9082404 --> 00:29:40,113.9072404
Oh, my goodness.

519
00:29:40,123.9082404 --> 00:29:40,283.9082404
Yeah.

520
00:29:40,283.9082404 --> 00:29:41,453.9102404
I did not expect that.

521
00:29:42,63.9032404 --> 00:29:47,453.9012404
And then we finally work our way towards the end of the second quarter, punt to Santana Moss.

522
00:29:47,513.9072404 --> 00:29:48,193.9052404
There you go.

523
00:29:48,473.9062404 --> 00:29:52,3.8972404
75-yard punt return, the first in Jet playoff history.

524
00:29:52,3.9052404 --> 00:29:52,573.9032404
There you go.

525
00:29:52,593.9022404 --> 00:29:57,293.9042404
Of course, we have the special teams Coach Ace in Mike Westhoff who is just pulling out all the stops.

526
00:29:57,323.8972404 --> 00:29:57,723.8972404
Right.

527
00:29:57,743.9112404 --> 00:30:05,113.9052404
And just like that, even though we're pretty much getting outplayed, especially on the line, it's 10-10, and, and we're in it.

528
00:30:07,539.9072404 --> 00:30:09,269.9072404
We're on to the third quarter now.

529
00:30:09,729.9072404 --> 00:30:24,899.9062404
The, the big play that happens, Pittsburgh's, I think, sort of their second drive, an out of nowhere Big Ben underthrow but Reggie Tongue grabs it, streaks down, down the field untouched for a pick six.

530
00:30:25,609.9052404 --> 00:30:27,799.9052404
So again, two gigantic plays.

531
00:30:27,869.9052404 --> 00:30:29,479.9052404
We're up 17-10.

532
00:30:29,829.9052404 --> 00:30:34,609.9072404
That's the first pick six in, uh, in the playoffs since 1986 for the Jets.

533
00:30:34,669.9052404 --> 00:30:41,559.9052404
So you're just stymied offensively, but these, uh, these big plays putting you right there.

534
00:30:41,569.9022404 --> 00:30:45,389.9042404
Yeah, back to back, uh, to put us up, to put us up seven.

535
00:30:45,829.9052404 --> 00:30:50,869.9052404
Uh, and then a little bit later in the third quarter, more good stuff.

536
00:30:51,69.9022404 --> 00:30:58,459.9052404
Shaun Ellis, who I touched on before, meets Jerome Bettis in the backfield, gets a hand in just a little bit, a fumble.

537
00:30:58,469.9042404 --> 00:30:59,979.9052404
Jets pounce on the ball.

538
00:31:00,19.9032404 --> 00:31:01,749.9052404
Eric Coleman, the safety, grabs it.

539
00:31:02,69.9022404 --> 00:31:05,259.9002404
So that kind of, uh, holds momentum there.

540
00:31:05,859.9072404 --> 00:31:12,69.9032404
And now we're into the fourth quarter, uh, where the game, you know, starts to change a little bit.

541
00:31:12,599.9052404 --> 00:31:25,109.9042404
Big Ben scrambles for 20 yards to get all the way down to the seven-yard line, and then there's this textbook shovel pass to Hines Ward where Big Ben is actually raising his hands right after he tosses it.

542
00:31:25,839.9042404 --> 00:31:27,799.9042404
Ties up the game at 17.

543
00:31:27,799.9052404 --> 00:31:28,709.9042404
Perfect play.

544
00:31:29,259.9042404 --> 00:31:35,659.9042404
Uh, Terrible Towel is going crazy, and now we're, we're under six minutes at, at this point.

545
00:31:36,269.9042404 --> 00:31:39,819.9052404
There's a beautiful Pennington middle screen to Curtis Martin.

546
00:31:40,59.9052404 --> 00:31:42,9.9032404
That gets us down to the Pittsburgh 33.

547
00:31:42,9.9062404 --> 00:31:44,519.9062404
Just three minutes left at this point.

548
00:31:45,189.9062404 --> 00:31:47,389.9062404
We work all the way down to a field goal try.

549
00:31:48,9.9062404 --> 00:31:49,849.9052404
Doug Bryant, 47 yards.

550
00:31:50,359.9042404 --> 00:31:53,419.9042404
This would be the longest kick by a visitor in Heinz Field.

551
00:31:53,429.9042404 --> 00:31:55,339.9042404
The record at that point had been 46.

552
00:31:55,349.9062404 --> 00:31:58,239.9032404
How crazy is that, by the way? How about that? In this day and age.

553
00:31:58,369.9062404 --> 00:31:59,479.9032404
Uh- No matter what the conditions.

554
00:31:59,479.9032404 --> 00:32:00,299.9032404
Yeah But anyway.

555
00:32:00,369.9032404 --> 00:32:01,269.9032404
Yeah, and it was...

556
00:32:01,379.9042404 --> 00:32:06,219.9082404
you always knew kicking in Heinz Field with the wind was- for sure it was just a tough, tough field to kick in.

557
00:32:06,229.9032404 --> 00:32:06,619.9032404
Yeah.

558
00:32:06,969.9012404 --> 00:32:11,119.9052404
So the ball is actually falling, trying to hang in.

559
00:32:11,509.9022404 --> 00:32:16,969.9072404
It hits the crossbar almost at the intersection with the left goalpost and just falls short.

560
00:32:17,329.9022404 --> 00:32:22,119.9002404
From 45- So that feels like we're not gonna be able to overcome that one.

561
00:32:22,519.9002404 --> 00:32:29,769.9012404
But then an interception right into David Barrett's lap, our cornerback, returns it to the Pittsburgh 36.

562
00:32:30,259.8982404 --> 00:32:38,209.8982404
Um, Curtis Martin run, a decent screen, six seconds left, time out.

563
00:32:39,419.9022404 --> 00:32:46,79.9032404
Somehow we run another play, which was a little weird in terms of a kneel, which brought it to four seconds.

564
00:32:46,299.8992404 --> 00:32:47,629.8972404
The kick would've been from 40.

565
00:32:48,339.9002404 --> 00:32:52,99.9022404
It ended up being from 43, so that happened.

566
00:32:52,869.8992404 --> 00:32:59,29.9002404
And then here's, here's Dan Dierdorf, you know, just in terms of describing this moment.

567
00:32:59,699.8932404 --> 00:33:06,859.8962404
"I'm sure every single person in Heinz Field is thinking this cannot be happening to our 15 and 1 Pittsburgh Steelers."

568
00:33:07,439.8982404 --> 00:33:09,519.8982404
Well, Jets Nation doesn't need to hear that.

569
00:33:09,919.8942404 --> 00:33:13,879.8952404
Um, hooked it left, overtime again.

570
00:33:16,903.9022404 --> 00:33:18,773.9022404
Third overtime, here we go.

571
00:33:19,253.9022404 --> 00:33:22,123.9022404
We did win the w- uh, c- toss on this one.

572
00:33:22,193.9022404 --> 00:33:25,103.9022404
Oh, well, we gotta go back and see what the call was.

573
00:33:25,253.9022404 --> 00:33:25,873.9022404
Yeah.

574
00:33:26,13.9022404 --> 00:33:29,463.9022404
One first down, then a punt, so not, not too exciting.

575
00:33:29,533.9022404 --> 00:33:39,333.9012404
And then, you know, Pittsburgh from their own 13, methodical drive, runs, passes, all the way down for a Jeff Reed 33-yard field goal.

576
00:33:39,953.9022404 --> 00:33:43,693.9022404
No problem there, ballgame, 20-17, Pittsburgh.

577
00:33:45,63.9022404 --> 00:33:48,173.9032404
You know, in terms of the takeaways from this game, just a couple of things.

578
00:33:48,223.9002404 --> 00:33:56,683.9022404
Uh, you know, as Pittsburgh really dominated the play, 43 rushes for 193 yards, their line and, and their backs were in control.

579
00:33:57,93.9022404 --> 00:34:00,313.8992404
We won the turnover battle three to one, but lost the game.

580
00:34:00,393.9012404 --> 00:34:04,343.9002404
That's, that's a tough pill to swallow 'cause, you know, that usually works out.

581
00:34:04,613.8982404 --> 00:34:04,873.8982404
Yeah.

582
00:34:04,943.9002404 --> 00:34:08,253.9012404
But just some great standouts just on the defensive side of the ball for the Jets.

583
00:34:08,253.9022404 --> 00:34:12,963.9002404
Jonathan Vilma, who was the defensive rookie of the year, was all over the place, 13 tackles.

584
00:34:13,543.8992404 --> 00:34:17,773.9002404
Eric Barton, 11 tackles, two tackles for a loss.

585
00:34:17,883.8982404 --> 00:34:19,143.8912404
So lots of good stuff.

586
00:34:19,633.8982404 --> 00:34:21,913.8942404
But it didn't- From the t- It didn't work out.

587
00:34:21,943.8952404 --> 00:34:33,19.8962404
Yeah, from the Times, uh, the next day, "We came close," said quarterback Chad Pennington But close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

588
00:34:34,209.8962404 --> 00:34:34,629.8962404
Yeah.

589
00:34:35,39.8962404 --> 00:34:36,809.8962404
And from Curtis, sorry, one more.

590
00:34:36,859.8962404 --> 00:34:37,179.8962404
Sure.

591
00:34:37,189.8962404 --> 00:34:48,189.8952404
From Curtis Martin, Um, he said he was the angriest he had ever been after any loss, and his quote was, "There's blood out there on the field that's ours," said Martin.

592
00:34:48,249.8962404 --> 00:34:50,869.8962404
Oh, God, he, yeah, he left it out there.

593
00:34:51,9.8962404 --> 00:34:51,249.8962404
Yeah.

594
00:34:51,279.8952404 --> 00:34:53,229.8982404
All right, so that was part three for the Jets Lookback.

595
00:34:55,9.8992404 --> 00:34:58,159.8972404
And we are on to, to the lightning round.

596
00:34:58,529.9002404 --> 00:34:58,889.9002404
Great.

597
00:34:59,419.8992404 --> 00:35:07,679.8962404
And I thought for this week we would start a little bit with most underrated New York pro athletes from kind of our youth, so through our college years.

598
00:35:08,139.8962404 --> 00:35:11,459.8972404
This week we'll start with baseball, uh, and football.

599
00:35:12,229.8972404 --> 00:35:20,979.8952404
So why don't you start with baseball player most underrated from your youth? I'm going curve ball and not picking a Met, mm.

600
00:35:21,249.9012404 --> 00:35:25,619.8962404
Um, I'm gonna take, Willie Randolph from- Oh from the New York Yankees.

601
00:35:25,629.8992404 --> 00:35:31,789.8982404
Six-time all-star, two-time World Series champ, 66 career war.

602
00:35:32,329.8962404 --> 00:35:46,939.8812404
Never won an MVP, never made a Hall of, Fame ballot push- so I think, yeah, kind of overlooked, with Reggie Jackson, Greg Nettles, and a bunch of other of those, those Yankees, but Willie, uh, always seemed like a class guy.

603
00:35:46,939.8882404 --> 00:36:01,89.8882404
And then of course he went across town to end up managing our, our New York Mets in, um, 2005, and by 2006, took them to the best record in baseball, one win away from the World Series.

604
00:36:01,419.8842404 --> 00:36:06,629.8832404
Still the second best winning percentage of any manager in Mets history.

605
00:36:07,433.8912404 --> 00:36:08,823.8912404
Willie's one of my favorites.

606
00:36:08,823.8912404 --> 00:36:13,503.8912404
He was my favorite Yankee, and that's saying something for, you know, a, a diehard Met fan growing up.

607
00:36:13,503.8912404 --> 00:36:14,283.8912404
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

608
00:36:14,373.8912404 --> 00:36:16,443.8912404
But absolute nothing but respect.

609
00:36:16,453.8912404 --> 00:36:20,133.8912404
I loved all things Willie Randolph, so, so that's a great call.

610
00:36:20,213.8912404 --> 00:36:20,553.8912404
Yeah.

611
00:36:20,723.8902404 --> 00:36:23,313.8912404
Uh, my guy, is John Stearns.

612
00:36:23,363.8922404 --> 00:36:24,483.8902404
Um- Oh, yeah.

613
00:36:24,483.8902404 --> 00:36:31,333.8912404
Of course you know, he played from '75 to '84, then there's a big injury, which I'll touch on, um, for the last couple of years.

614
00:36:31,623.8902404 --> 00:36:35,893.8902404
He was a four-time All-Star, which I hadn't remembered, but complete- deservedly so.

615
00:36:36,323.8912404 --> 00:36:37,913.8902404
Great athlete behind the plate.

616
00:36:37,963.8922404 --> 00:36:41,203.8912404
He was a football player in college at the University of Colorado.

617
00:36:41,533.8922404 --> 00:36:42,843.8902404
He stole bases.

618
00:36:42,883.8902404 --> 00:36:44,853.8892404
He was a feisty team leader.

619
00:36:45,243.8912404 --> 00:36:56,473.8912404
Um, I loved rewatching the standing O that he received at Shea Stadium in 1984, 'cause he'd been out for nearly two years with a significant elbow tear.

620
00:36:56,723.8902404 --> 00:36:56,863.8902404
Mm.

621
00:36:56,903.8912404 --> 00:36:58,633.8892404
Um, so that was cool.,

622
00:36:59,3.8882404 --> 00:37:01,233.8852404
but just love the player John Stearns.

623
00:37:02,53.8862404 --> 00:37:03,953.8842404
But- it's football time for me.

624
00:37:04,3.8832404 --> 00:37:04,373.8832404
Yeah.

625
00:37:04,373.8832404 --> 00:37:04,443.8852404
Yeah.

626
00:37:04,443.8852404 --> 00:37:11,223.8812404
Um, and I am proudly going- with New York Giants defensive end Leonard Marshall.

627
00:37:11,233.8862404 --> 00:37:11,473.8822404
Mm-hmm.

628
00:37:11,883.8802404 --> 00:37:13,683.8832404
Uh, 79.5

629
00:37:13,693.8852404 --> 00:37:21,403.8882404
sacks in a Giants uniform, third all time in franchise history, behind two guys named Strahan and Taylor.

630
00:37:22,113.8842404 --> 00:37:29,883.8862404
Not in Hall of Fame conversations, a little weird given, given those stats and given, given his accomplishments on the field.

631
00:37:30,223.8882404 --> 00:37:34,823.8872404
Two Super Bowl rings the NFC Championship- in 1990.

632
00:37:35,323.8862404 --> 00:37:40,73.8852404
Uh, he delivered the hit that ended Joe Montana's dynasty in real time.

633
00:37:40,373.8852404 --> 00:37:41,743.8762404
Some called it dirty.

634
00:37:41,863.8762404 --> 00:37:45,783.8772404
It, to, it, look, it was a rough hit, but it was all in the game.

635
00:37:46,243.8802404 --> 00:37:51,513.8712404
Just, just a fantastic defender for a number of years for, for the Big Blue.

636
00:37:51,513.8722404 --> 00:37:56,73.8672404
He was the guy in the trenches making sure quarterbacks never got comfortable.

637
00:37:57,117.8762404 --> 00:38:00,347.8762404
Big Leonard Marshall fan Yep, yep, great player.

638
00:38:00,397.8762404 --> 00:38:02,657.8762404
Who you got? My guy is one of my favorites.

639
00:38:03,37.8762404 --> 00:38:04,837.8772404
M- my guy is Darryl Ray.

640
00:38:04,897.8772404 --> 00:38:07,957.8772404
Um, he was a, he was a second rounder.

641
00:38:08,177.8772404 --> 00:38:09,377.8782404
Free s- Free safety.

642
00:38:09,617.8782404 --> 00:38:13,937.8782404
Um, only five years as a Jet, 1980 through 1984.

643
00:38:14,337.8772404 --> 00:38:20,777.8772404
Wonderful video tribute that I saw from the, uh, from the Jets series called From the Vault, if anybody wants to check that out.

644
00:38:21,587.8762404 --> 00:38:29,837.8762404
21 picks in just five seasons, three for touchdowns, and get this, for an incredible 581 yards.

645
00:38:30,7.8782404 --> 00:38:32,927.8762404
When he got the ball in his hands, he did something with it.

646
00:38:33,27.8742404 --> 00:38:35,487.8702404
Eight total touchdowns with the fumble returns.

647
00:38:35,787.8722404 --> 00:38:44,87.8712404
So this is a player that the Jets could really use right now in terms of our inability, uh, to pick off the ball- with kind of being, zero being the key number last year.

648
00:38:44,577.8732404 --> 00:38:48,187.8712404
Uh, Darryl Ray, you know, I touched, is from Norman, Oklahoma.

649
00:38:48,697.8722404 --> 00:38:53,217.8722404
Uh, he returned home after his football career, but, but listen to this.

650
00:38:53,307.8692404 --> 00:38:58,47.8742404
In September 2008, he and his family opened up Ray's Barbecue.

651
00:38:58,337.8752404 --> 00:39:01,347.8712404
It's won several awards, and this is from the website.

652
00:39:02,217.8722404 --> 00:39:03,37.8752404
You're gonna like this.

653
00:39:03,507.8732404 --> 00:39:07,567.8702404
"Our motto is a rib so tender you don't need teeth."

654
00:39:09,497.8712404 --> 00:39:09,867.8692404
Come on.

655
00:39:10,187.8692404 --> 00:39:21,399.8712404
So it would be wonderful to, uh, to find myself there and, and to enjoy and to say hello, but such a great player, um, Darryl Ray Yes.

656
00:39:21,659.8712404 --> 00:39:24,309.8712404
All right, you ready for a little PS? Yeah, PS.

657
00:39:24,319.8712404 --> 00:39:25,989.8712404
We're taking it off the field.

658
00:39:26,59.8702404 --> 00:39:37,489.8702404
This week was my, my topic- Yeah to pick, and I asked that we each think about one to two things we're ra- irrationally...

659
00:39:38,829.8722404 --> 00:39:41,799.8722404
Reminds me of, uh, my seventh grade math teacher, Mr.

660
00:39:41,799.8722404 --> 00:39:42,409.8712404
McSud.

661
00:39:42,479.8722404 --> 00:39:42,689.8722404
Yeah.

662
00:39:42,689.8722404 --> 00:39:43,879.8722404
It's a rational number.

663
00:39:43,899.8702404 --> 00:39:45,779.8712404
Irrational, rational, w- no one knew.

664
00:39:45,799.8712404 --> 00:39:51,209.8702404
Okay, that's, uh, for the, for the, uh, high schoolers out there that, that went to school with us.

665
00:39:51,579.8702404 --> 00:39:56,689.8732404
That aside, we are looking for the irrational competitive, topics.

666
00:39:56,749.8712404 --> 00:40:00,109.8722404
I'll let you go first with, your first item.

667
00:40:00,299.8712404 --> 00:40:03,159.8702404
Yeah, so a slight cheat on my first one.

668
00:40:03,159.8722404 --> 00:40:04,619.8712404
Cheats are fine for PS.

669
00:40:04,659.8722404 --> 00:40:05,179.8722404
Oh, good.

670
00:40:05,439.8712404 --> 00:40:11,939.8752404
So I actually changed the first one to irrational patience, uh, rather than irrationally competitive.

671
00:40:12,339.8722404 --> 00:40:13,809.8732404
So for me, it's puzzles.

672
00:40:14,289.8692404 --> 00:40:16,689.8702404
I can sit for hours at a puzzle.

673
00:40:16,879.8732404 --> 00:40:21,919.8692404
Uh- We're just gonna call that competitive because you've gotta be patient- to be competitive with tough puzzles.

674
00:40:21,989.8742404 --> 00:40:22,939.8712404
Okay, okay.

675
00:40:22,939.8712404 --> 00:40:24,789.8742404
I mean, I, I- I wanna bring it around thank you for that.

676
00:40:24,789.8742404 --> 00:40:27,149.8702404
I wanted to be fair, but sure, you could say that.

677
00:40:27,189.8712404 --> 00:40:34,609.8682404
Um, and certainly during, you know, COVID, I had so much time to d- to sit at the puzzle board and, you know, that was, that was great.

678
00:40:35,39.8692404 --> 00:40:42,49.8722404
Um, my only request on the puzzles to family and friends is if you could just put in one piece.

679
00:40:42,299.8712404 --> 00:40:49,719.8702404
That is, uh, again, it's not really a competitive thing, but I do like it when someone else just contributes just- Just something a, just a little bit.

680
00:40:50,79.8702404 --> 00:40:53,99.8702404
Uh, so just a, a huge fan of puzzles as- That's a good one as you know.

681
00:40:53,479.8642404 --> 00:40:53,989.8662404
That's a good one.

682
00:40:53,989.8662404 --> 00:40:57,709.8642404
My first one is, watching Jeopardy! in a group.

683
00:40:58,379.8642404 --> 00:41:10,659.8642404
So it doesn't matter whose living room it is, but, I, I like to be the first one to shoot out the answers, and, I'm definitely keeping a mental, score check as we go, of everybody.

684
00:41:10,739.8632404 --> 00:41:15,289.8642404
Like, I can kinda, like, yeah, kinda keep that on, on one side of my head.

685
00:41:15,299.8642404 --> 00:41:15,319.8642404
Yeah.

686
00:41:15,329.8632404 --> 00:41:17,739.8622404
I like to think I, I'm quite solid, yeah.

687
00:41:17,839.8612404 --> 00:41:26,39.8612404
But, um, in any case, I definitely like to, see what I can do when, when that show comes on- Very nice with a group of people.

688
00:41:26,39.8612404 --> 00:41:26,59.8612404
Yeah.

689
00:41:26,109.8612404 --> 00:41:26,819.8612404
Very nice.

690
00:41:26,819.8612404 --> 00:41:27,129.8602404
Yeah.

691
00:41:27,199.8612404 --> 00:41:29,879.8582404
As long as there's no opera for Final Jeopardy!, we'll be fine.

692
00:41:30,269.8602404 --> 00:41:31,139.8612404
I get that.

693
00:41:31,589.8602404 --> 00:41:34,9.8612404
Uh, this one's probably not gonna be too big a surprise.

694
00:41:34,19.8602404 --> 00:41:38,559.8632404
So my second one in terms of irrationally competitive is Connect 4.

695
00:41:38,559.8632404 --> 00:41:38,589.8612404
Nice.

696
00:41:38,639.8612404 --> 00:41:46,179.8592404
Um, I, you know, I definitely take my time between moves, you know, especially against a strong opponent.

697
00:41:46,479.8592404 --> 00:41:47,789.8582404
So I will say that.

698
00:41:47,929.8562404 --> 00:42:00,359.8572404
Um, and one of the things that's f- that's fun for me, and I think other people probably experience this too with the game, is that when you know the game's over but the other person doesn't.

699
00:42:00,779.8632404 --> 00:42:08,809.8632404
And of course, you know, as, as you know, I, I did have this, you know, wonderful experience years ago where I met the inventor of, of the game.

700
00:42:09,149.8582404 --> 00:42:22,679.8632404
And that was a big surprise a- and, and fun, and then ended up uh, beating a bunch of other people that were at this event, and you know, so it's just part of, um, it's just part of my story.

701
00:42:22,879.8632404 --> 00:42:25,579.8632404
Uh, Connect Four, I love the game to this day.

702
00:42:25,699.8632404 --> 00:42:26,299.8632404
Yes.

703
00:42:26,349.8632404 --> 00:42:28,489.8632404
I, I thought you might throw that out there.

704
00:42:29,19.8632404 --> 00:42:34,679.8622404
My second one's a little, like, uh, yeah, I m- I took some liberties, but, but I, but I like it anyway.

705
00:42:35,69.8622404 --> 00:42:40,499.8632404
I will not use a subway map when it comes to a location in Manhattan.

706
00:42:40,779.8632404 --> 00:42:41,49.8632404
Okay.

707
00:42:41,49.8632404 --> 00:42:55,149.8582404
So if there's a dinner scheduled wherever, in the Village, Lower East Side, FiDi, anywhere in Manhattan, There's just no possible way I'm looking at a subway map to get there.

708
00:42:55,709.8582404 --> 00:43:03,509.8602404
I just, you know, lived there my whole life and, if I'm wrong, which only very occasionally happens, so be it.

709
00:43:03,569.8582404 --> 00:43:04,579.8552404
Yeah, I'm just old school.

710
00:43:04,729.8542404 --> 00:43:04,949.8542404
Yeah.

711
00:43:04,959.8572404 --> 00:43:06,339.8572404
I'm just not bringing out the Google Maps.

712
00:43:06,339.8572404 --> 00:43:07,379.8582404
I know I could punch it in.

713
00:43:07,509.8602404 --> 00:43:07,929.8602404
Yeah.

714
00:43:07,999.8582404 --> 00:43:08,639.8532404
I'm aware.

715
00:43:08,689.8532404 --> 00:43:10,959.8532404
I'm aware, everyone, but I'm not gonna.

716
00:43:12,309.8562404 --> 00:43:14,749.8592404
No, I, I think, I think that's totally fair.

717
00:43:14,799.8532404 --> 00:43:16,439.8532404
Um, absolutely.

718
00:43:17,439.8532404 --> 00:43:18,139.8532404
All right.

719
00:43:18,719.8592404 --> 00:43:22,69.8562404
So with that, that's it for today.

720
00:43:22,489.8562404 --> 00:43:23,639.8572404
Thank you for listening.

721
00:43:23,899.8602404 --> 00:43:26,429.8532404
Until the next time, I'm Peter Olczyk.

722
00:43:27,179.8582404 --> 00:43:28,289.8532404
And I'm Scott Greenhut.

723
00:43:28,989.8562404 --> 00:43:38,949.8532404
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Until next time, Peter and I are gonna put this episode in the books.